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This upset Prime Minister Meles. He was not going to stand by as the Italian government waffled about returning
Contrived and erratic bouts of indignation, Mr. Prime Minister?
"During my stay in
"It made me very sad to see the obelisk humiliated, tied up with rope," he said.
Strong words that… Oh. I’m sorry. You’re not done with caricatural objurgation?? Do go on, Mr. Prime Minister.
"In 55 years,
"Today the government says it wants to restore it. But we're afraid this is just another excuse," he added.
"We just want to put an end to this story and turn over a new leaf. I feel more frustrated than angry," the prime minister said.
Ah, yes, feelings.
So the first part of the obelisk was returned on
One year later… well, let’s just say we might need those priests back to sprinkle more holy water on the obelisk ‘coz it is refusing to erect itself back in its rightful place. Damn Italians. Probably put a hex on it because…
Nearly a year after a triumphant return home, three pieces of
Hm. Earlier we were told that the obelisk would be erected in September 2005, after the rainy season. But let’s not quibble about dates.
For Ethiopians who watched the three granite pieces flown home to cheers and cries of joy nearly seven decades after the national treasure was taken to Rome, that is almost inexcusable.
"Unless it is erected, if it lies there, what purpose does it serve for the people?" pensioner Wolde Rufael Asfaw asked.
Picky. Picky. Picky. It’s not tied in ropes humiliating the prime minister, that’s what it’s not doing. But people need so much these days.
Some accuse the government of indifference - or more cynically, of ignoring the obelisk after using it for pre-election propaganda. Others argue re-erecting it will endanger untold archaeological treasures at the site or be too difficult to carry out correctly.
Pre-election propaganda? By the Ethiopian government? Damn those anti-peace, imperial revanchist, chauvinist rejectionists. Always with the cynicism.
Patience, say the Ethiopian government committee and the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organisation (Unesco) in charge of putting it back up.
Now this is just me, and you know how I get about these kind of things… but since this was so important to Ethiopia and Ethiopians, since this was a matter of Ethiopian pride, history and reclaiming heritage stolen by Europeans… would it have made sense to… what is it called… actually do homework about how to best erect the obelisk, um, before the obelisk was returned? Did it occur to somebody in the Ethiopian government that it would actually need to erect the obelisk so that when
Tadele Bitul Kibrat, a private-sector structural engineer on the obelisk committee, is fast to dispute the contention that the re-erection is too hard for today's engineers.
"If 2 000 years ago our ancestors could erect it, to say it cannot be erected in the 21st century with modern knowledge is stupid," Tadele said.
The obelisk will be erected “sometime towards the end of 2006,” we are told by UNESCO. There’s not much update from the Ethiopian government on this.
Maybe in April 2010?
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posted by ET Wonqette at Friday, June 09, 2006
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Dear Wonquette,
You have no idea how typical this is behaviour is. As a veteran NGO worker based in Addis (but having travelled throughout Ethiopia) I have seen my share of warehouses full of equipment (computer to medical) one government agency or another bought (usually with aid money) only to discover it is 'incompatible with our needs.' Once the photo-op and the handshaking ends, it's off to the basement until more funding is secured to reconcile the 'incompatibility.' War stories aplenty.
Unless AFROMET and concerned citizens don't make a stink, the Obleix will stay crated.
Thanks, I needed to vent. Enjoy your writing much.
God in heaven you are annoying. You are always quick to point out what is wrong with out offering any solutions. I am so tired of your "too cool for school" attitude. It is so easy to point out problems, do you have any suggestions on how they might accomplish "the erection?" Or on how we might help? Government is not always the solution. In fact government is rarely the solution. I am so tired of hearing about the problems can we talk solutions please.
hen,
You say, I quote:
"I am so tired of your "too cool for school" attitude. It is so easy to point out problems, do you have any suggestions on how they might accomplish "the erection?" "
What the hell are you talking about? If your master Meles is not able to erect the Oblisque, why did he give the Italians a hard time to return it to Axum? Meles was even angry, ok frustrated, with the Italian government for delaying the return as if he was so ready to erect it in Tigray.
That Duriye and coward Woyane leader thinks he can last in power because he thinks his murderous Agazi troops will protect him. But he won't. Once he he doesn't have the money to pay them they will turn against him.
He should have asked the Italian government for money instead of that stupid rock which actually looked better standing in Rome.
Tell your Woyane master that instead of coming to an Ethiopian website and litter this area with your filth.
woah, boys. a little chlorine in this gene pool, please.
the subject was incompetence, i do believe, or rather the severe lack of it in the current regime.
continuing that, Wonq, but doing homework about the erection would have taken all the fun out of a gathering of the men in velour and crushed velvet suits with matching tshirts. would you have missed *that* for anything?
minnew etay betwatu!
Hen, you really want to go there? how many letter writing campaigns initiated by ETW have you participated in?
teenk so the anonymous drive-bys are getting-- interesting? speaking pf littering with filth, anonymous, take it to medrek, honey.
ETW
Who are you to talk about our oblisque???the oblisque belongs to Tigreans! period.
In fact, our Shike Al-Amudine is in charge of the erection!!!
emebete wonqitu. beware of your supporters. I kinda of understand now what that dude said about cheering you off the cliff...
No problem with your post, I actually thought it was clever, but if dissent is not tolerated in your forums, and degenerates to this kind of blah blah, you might have to reboot your fara-dar and do another sweep.
For you warriors; if you can’t handle disagreements on a forum on the internet on an anonymous blog, gudachin fela…what makes you better than…ay yiqir. Yiqir.
dube, I couldn't have said it better myself. Thak you! Very well put.
I think this issue of immediately trashing dissenting voices is more rampant than we admit in the Ethiopian Diaspora. It always amazes me why the slightest deviation from the mainstream diaspora political view is perceived as supporting the 'Master' or the Woyane regime. One can vehemently oppose the current dictator in Addis and also have a dissenting opinion on some issues with others who also oppose the same regime. That's how compromising ideas that are beneficial to the majority are born. The key is being able to listen to each other without going after each other's throats.
I think this is a really troubling trend that should be addressed. And we wonder why we can't get along.
Settle.
Dubster, you really think the two Anonymousi represent the average reader/'supporter'? Are they in your league? Or even Hen's?
But yes. The Fara Radar 2006 is crackling.
lol, addis. that's how to express love for an ethiopian woman: on giant erection! our forefathers knew how to do it.
maybe in 2010 eprdf will bring back ertra. problem is, is there a big enough crate to hold it in for a year?
Wonq,
Very clever. I was in Axum for the celebrations (NOT wearing a velour jumpsuit, abate yimoot!) and the hype around this thing was beyond the nationalist frenzy when the FM announced (I think in a deliberate lie) that Ethiopia was awarded Badme.
Years later people 'forgot' the announcement, and the MP of Badme voted for Meles' five-point plan, and accepting agreements "in priciple."
You raised a good point, although too subtley. Who will take us seriously next time Ethiopia asks for other looted artifacts back? This has broader ramifications.
i see the heading 'erection problems'...... followed by a picture of a qess looking loving at a broken, tied up, er, monument. (beyesus sm!.. ante freud gezih chiraq wuTTTa!)
The story of the obelisk is very typical of the half-arssed measures which are almost chronic around here. Even bigger erection problems plague Telecom. You won’t know how much until the story of the state-run (or I should say un-run) Ethiopian Telecom comes out. Millions of dollars have been wasted because of sheer ego and management incompetence. TPLF/EPRDF has yet to start thinking out of the jungle. It is beyond what any Fara-Radar can detect.
I hope my views do not make me just another one of those “Wonkette elites.” (-:
Dear anonymous,
I have no masters in Meles, EPRDF, Kinigit CUD, OLF, TLF or any other acronym group. I don’t give one flying fuck about them. I am a card caring, far left, liberal, feminist Ethiopian American. I have chosen America as my home and my political interest lie here in America. The only interest I have in Ethiopia is to help the people in any way I can. I do that not by writing letters but actually going to Ethiopia (when I can) and volunteering (WHO and other local organizations) and raising money for projects that actually help people in Ethiopia (water projects, micro lending projects etc). It is time for us to stop whining and moaning like little bitches and actually DO something.
"I am a card [carrying], far left, liberal, feminist Ethiopian American."
Well that explains it.
You're right kezira, that probably explians why hen has such a diverse and perhaps a more tolerant view of opinions here.
So, I take it being a far left, card carrying, feminist liberal is out of style in the Ethiopian Diaspora these days, or are we just rolling with the times ? LOL
Nothing like the issue of erection and the inability to achieve it to bring out the worst in men. That’s the reason we’re having a flurry of “anonymous drive-bys” here beyond the usual limit. I think wonq touched a nerve with her discussion of impotence, i.e. the impotence of the ET-gov’t as witnessed by its dysfunction in erecting the Obelisk.
I sugget that she leave this erection business be and stick to discussions involving the dismantling of them hydro-dams and irrigation systems built in Ethiopia in the last 15 years.
Anyway, what is it with these anonymous types? Every time they have something to say, they feel a need to issue a disclaimer that their little rants are not “the anonymous sniping of a Woyane sympathizer,” as one of them put it in his response to a previous blog yesterday, and another one did again today?! I mean, why bother? I’d like to think that the readers at wonqville are discerning enough to figure it out for themselves and cut them some slack (without a disclaimer) even if their views are often a lousy rehashing of the official EPRDF-line. If anything, what a disclaimer like that does is raise a red flag. Especially when it comes from folks who, over several comments here, have developed a distinctive pattern of obfuscation where they swing radically between two camps in a pathetic attempt to appear objective.
There is absolutely nothing in wonqville that discourages dissent! We do, however, ask this of you: IF you are a regime loyalist, STOP hedging and take ownership of the choice you’ve made so we could perhaps have an honest discourse on our differences. Sure, any thoughts you might share as an (outed) affirmed cadre probably won’t make you the toast of the town hereabouts, but coming clean would go a long way in lending you some level of credibility to the extent that that’s possible.
It could also be liberating, in that, it would spare you the trouble of having to explain yourself every time you make some dumb-ass remark, because those dumb-ass remarks could then be easily forgiven when seen in the context of your being duty-bound to make them. That courtesy, however, would be extended to you only if you are brave enough to fess up. If you don’t, the terminally idiotic remarks you make, I’m afraid we would have to assume you’re making entirely of your own accord. And, THAT would not bode very well for you guys, because it would continue to make you sound like sideshow-freaks who needs to shut the fuck up!
chereqa,
try to keep up. it explains the gigantic ‘holier than thou’ bitchiness not to mention a very fundamental misunderstanding of blogs. (re-read your first cliche riddled comment and then try lecturing us about tolerance again. )
Hen,
you assume all we are doing is talk, and you are careless in intimating that letter-writing campaigns are ineffective compared to your endeavors. i admire your commitment and encourage you to do your part. i could not give a rat’s ass about your political affiliation and where you stand on the feminist radar, but you come off as a cerebral proletarian if you think all Weichegud has done is bitch and moan. it would have been helpful if you did not fall to the temptation of hyperbole. in fact, many people have been inspired, including me, to do our part; helping Birtukan’s family, involving ourselves in local politics, exposing the layers of bullshit coming from institutions like the World Bank (see Inde Hewan) … there are several ways to skin a cat, baby. it’s totally understandable if you are frustrated, but don’t you dare tell us all we are doing is whining. (and who the hell usues "to cool for school" as a metaphor any more?!)
not anonymous: bingo! some of the arguments disguised as 'voices of dissent' are so talking points it becomes laughable. i don't even know why etw responds. but, hey, i am an elite.
Sheesh. Who unleashed this Tsunami?
Hen—I love feminists so don’t take this the wrong way. Your initial blitzkrieg has glaring contradictions:
You write: “…government is not always the solution.” I call into question your “far left” liberal credentials. It is exactly the far left that thinks government IS the solution-- to almost everything.
You also miss the broader ‘erection’ problems implied in this particular entry. (By the by, I hope you wrote “..do you have any suggestions on how they might accomplish the erection?” tongue-in-cheek because like Chraq I will have major Freudian nightmares.) This hyping of nationalism when it is convenient is part and parcel of the Ethiopian government’s MO. One of the ‘solutions’ is to expose the 15 year old cover up.
Your argument (in your first post) is also a couple of rungs below the average Wonqville reader’s prowess-- and I say that with all due respect. It’s like people who say “People don’t have anything to eat so what is this “internet” you are talking about?” It’s a classic argument from people who don’t want to be distracted by ‘abstract’, intellectual gravitas. Let me illustrate: I just came back from Ethiopia. Someone asked me about some of the highlights. I said I took a bunch of kids to the museum. Standard reply: “There are kids dying and you went to the museum?!” Adkami neger.
Did I mention I love feminists?
...wonder why we can't get along.
There, I re-read my original 'cliche-riddled' post and for the life of me, I still can't get your point. Bitchiness??? Well, I never!!! ... I have never been so insulted in my short blog etiquette-less, cliché filled blogging life!!
Charging someone with too much cliché in 'wonqville' is like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500, like someone said.
Sorry kezira, I must have missed the memo on blog etiquette, but I'd appreciate a copy if you have one laying around in your 'SAVEBOX'. :)
May I suggest that YOU re-read my original post and try, if you can, to understand that it was not meant to be a lecture or a 'holier than thou' comment? If asking for tolerance qualifies as being highbrow, then I guess I am guilty. And this from someone implies that he/she has mastered 'blog etiquette' and uses terms like 'cerebral proletarian'?? Please... or is it Puhleeez here in Wonkville?
What you do part time to hopefully save your soul is no one’s but your own business. I wish you wouldn't wear it as your badge to score blog points.
yohannes, do you think the same government theory that is used here in the US can be applied in places like Ethiopia and other third world countries? Besides, don't you think we need a viable government established first before we first before starting to discuss its role? I think that's where we are now, isn’t it? As for here in the US, the debate about government and its role has been so bastardized, it has become difficult to take a hard stance either way.
I think wonq jumped the gun when she gave the first “Shut The Fuck Up-award” to Jeffrey Sachs. I mean, say what you may about Jeffrey, at least, HE was capabale of some semblance of originality of thought, maybe even sincerity. As harebrained as his views may have been, he might actually have believed he had the remedy for what ailed us. And that may have been a sad commentary on his mental state, but was hardly an attribute that qualified him for the STFU-award.
See, even among misguided folks, there are some like Jeffrey Sachs who, however cockeyed their views, have views nonetheless, and the skills to boot to articulate them well. At least, they don’t take freedom and democracy totally out of the equation even as they help bring clean water to a community. That, unfortunately, is more than I could say about Hen! SHE does not give a flying fuck about the struggle of Ethiopians as her political interests lie here in America! To her, all is well as long as she puts in a few dollars on that little water project right adjacent to the detention camp at Dedessa.
If y'all forgive me, I move to rescind the first STFU-award so unjustly bestowed on Jeffrey Sachs
and nominate instead. . .
this is gonna be a long day. Chereka, Kezira was referring to Hen's comments. you asked, "explaination of what..." and the first para is about being a left-winger. get it? sorry you wasted so much real estate defending something that was not aimed at you.
jesus. really. try keeping up, ende.
as one of the 'elite' i am embarrassed to have to ask this, but anyone have any idea what this means:
>>> yohannes, do you think the same government theory that is used here in the US can be applied in places like Ethiopia and other third world countries? Besides, don't you think we need a viable government established first before we first before starting to discuss its role? I think that's where we are now, isn’t it? As for here in the US, the debate about government and its role has been so bastardized, it has become difficult to take a hard stance either way.
--sigh-- what's the use, jraff?
non anon, totally disagree that jeffrey sachs should be stripped of his STFU status. just that it shouldn't be an annual event. i think Hen means well, in a hard-left feminist kinda way. but it's typical. the 'we'll feed you so shut the fuck up'theory of development. or, as you so aptly put it, 'the clean water project next to Dedessa' way of thinkin'.
kezira, out.
speaking of erections-----
went through andrew's pictures.
andy is muchos caliente.
Everybody, chill.
It won't do any good to Ethiopia if we bicker with each other trying to defend our egos.
Whatever happend to civil arguments like "I respectifully disagree ..."; "I believe the point is ..."
We do not want wonqiville turn in to a "classy medrek". Please resist the temptation to respond in "kind".
lili-titi,
thank you for *finally* bringing up the real issue. Andrew is hot! in that dmbush-bushiye ferenje 'yemaneh yene shebela' kind of way. ya-ya?
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